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Do AI Data Centers Hurt Your Health?

The Wisconsin Public Health Association recently adopted a resolution saying unregulated hyperscale data centers are a threat to public health in our state. In this episode, hear from one of the co-authors of that resolution to find out the health and energy consequences of data centers.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Kayla Rinderknecht, Community Health Manager, Clean Wisconsin

Resources for You:

Petition: Stop Unchecked AI Data Center Development

Clean Wisconsin Action Alerts

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Are You Ready for the Plastic-Free Challenge?

What does it take to get plastic out of your life? Well, unless you can go back in time 100 years, it's pretty much impossible. But what about *some* plastic? Just a place to start?

In this episode, we're talking about plastic waste in the grocery store and how to try to take control of the plastics that wind up in your shopping cart.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Brendon Smith, Marketing and Communications Director, Willy St. Co-op

Resources for You:

Plastic-Free July: 31 days of ideas

Microplastics in Our Bodies: Exposure and Potential Health Harms

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Coal in the Water

While federal money props up old coal power plants in Wisconsin, the EPA is busy relaxing rules meant to keep coal's toxic pollution out of our air and water.

In this episode, what our nation's new commitment to old coal means for Wisconsin's water and for the regulations that are supposed to protect us.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Clean Wisconsin Attorney Evan Feinauer

Resources for You:

Wisconsinites May Soon Pay Higher Bills to Keep Coal Plants Open in Indiana

Wisconsin foots the bill for coal's last hurrah

Trump order to keep Michigan coal plant open will mean higher bills for Wisconsinites

Speak out against the Red Oak Ridge gas plant proposal

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Who's behind the avalanche of AI data center moratoriums in Wisconsin?

It's happening in every corner of Wisconsinβ€”Cassville, Menomonie, Superior, Madison, La Crosse County, Dane County, Westport, Manitowoc County, Door County. Communities all over the state are passing moratoriums and ordinances aimed at stopping what a year ago seemed unstoppable: the unchecked flood of AI data centers into our state.

In this episode, who is pushing this avalanche of local action, and will it be enough to stem the environmental harms already unfolding because of AI data centers?

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Blaine Halverson, Community Organizer, Great Lakes Neighbors United

Resources for You:

Petition: Stop Unchecked AI Data Center Development

Great Lakes Neighbors United

Episode 74: The Truth About AI Data Centers and Our Water

Into Thin Air: How AI data center energy use harms our water resources

AI Data Centers will use more energy than all the homes in the state combined

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Is Ethanol a Scam?

Have we been sold a bill of goods about ethanol? In this episode, the toll ethanol is taking on our health right here in Wisconsin.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Sara Walling, Water & Agriculture Program Director, Clean Wisconsin

Resources for You:

New Report: Nitrate Contamination Driving Health Crisis in Wisconsin

Proposal to increase E-15 would cause substantial harms in Wisconsin

Common Pesticides Used in Wisconsin and Potential Health Harms

Health Brief: Nitrates in Wisconsin's Drinking Water

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What's in Our Rain (and Snow)?

In this episode, what the rain and snow are telling about PFAS pollution in the Upper Midwestβ€”plus some information about new PFAS laws in Minnesota that could be a blueprint for Wisconsin.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Alexander Frie, Research and Fellowship Coordinator, Minnesota Sea Grant

Resources for you:

Amara's Law regulating PFAS in Products (Minnesota)

Episode 62: What to Know about PFAS in Pesticides

PFAS Contamination in Public and Private Wells in Wisconsin (Health Research Brief)

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What's Standing in the Way of Line 5?

A circuit court judge is deciding whether permits issued by the state allowing Enbridge to build its Line 5 pipeline reroute in Wisconsin's Northwoods are legal. But in the meantime, he is allowing work on the new Line 5 to continue -- except in a few key places.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Evan Feinauer, Clean Wisconsin Attorney

Resources for You:

Wisconsin: One one of the Most Important Places om Earth (Video)

Stop the Line 5 Oil Pipeline

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The Truth About AI Data Centers and Our Water

Amy talks with a researcher who took a deep dive into the water impacts of AI data centers. What she found is something you're not hearing many tech companies talking about.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Hannah Richerson, Water Policy Manager, Clean Wisconsin

Resources for You:

New Analysis: Data Center Water Consumption Will Be Far Higher Than Tech Companies Claim Clear As Mud: Hidden Thirst Of Data Centers AI Data Centers In Wisconsin Will Use More Energy Than All Homes In State Combined

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How Chefs Can Protect the Planet

Wisconsin was one of the first places where the farm-to-table movement really took root. But now that movement is changing, becoming more urgent in the face of the flooding, droughts, and changing weather patterns that are taking a toll on our food systems.

In this episode, Amy welcomes Madison's 2025 Chef of the Year Evan Danells of Cadre to talk about why these days chefs are adding protecting the planet to the menu.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Chef Evan Danells, Cadre

Resources for You:

2026 Epicurean Evening Menu & Tickets

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What's a Data Center Tariff and Why Should You Care?

Right now there are three AI data centers under construction in Wisconsin. So how do you minimize the toll they will take on our environment and our energy bills?

On this episode, a deep dive into data center tariffs at the PSC and what they mean for you.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Clean Wisconsin Attorney Brett Korte

Resources for You:

Petition: Stop Unchecked AI Data Center Devlopment

Related Episodes:

Episode 56: Data Center Secrets

Episode 59: Who's Paying for Data Centers?

Episode 60: Hey tech companies, your gas is showing!

Episode 63: How Caledonia, WI Defeated a Date Center

Episode 67: The Nuclear Option

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Meet The Teen Who Is Suing Wisconsin Over Climate Change

The science supporting climate change has long been settled, but progress remains painfully slow. Especially here in Wisconsin, where we have laws on the books that are actively helping to keep fossil fuels burning here.

But maybe not for long. In this episode meet one of 15 kids who is suing our state over climate change.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guests:

Madeleine Bohn, Wisconsin High School Student

Skylar Harris, Attorney, Midwest Environmental Advocates

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Chaos Theory: Fighting the rapid fire attacks on our environment

On this episode, a look at the fallout from a rapid dismantling of environmental protections, and what groups like Clean Wisconsin and so many others are doing to keep people safe.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Katie Nekola, Clean Wisconsin General Counsel

Resources For You:

Economic Impacts of the "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" Energy Provisions on Wisconsin

Clean Wisconsin Sues EPA Over Repeal Of Climate Protections

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The Truth About Grassfed Beef

What makes the food you eat healthy? Turns out it's a pretty complicated question that goes way beyond the four food groups. In this episode, Amy visits Starry Nights Farm in Burlington to learn about some groundbreaking researchβ€”involving beef raised right here in Wisconsinβ€”that's changing the way we look at food and nutrition.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guests: Paul Maggio and Marisa Wiewall, Starry Nights Farm

Resources for You:

Nutritional Comparisons Between Grass-Fed Beef and Conventional Grain-Fed Beef

Defining Nutrient Density in Beef

Starry Nights Farm

Defender Episode 57: Wisconsin's Forbidden Fruit

Defender Episode 45: Cows, Tall Grass and Wind Turbines

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How Superior WI Defeated a Gas Plant

Communities across Wisconsin are starting to push back when energy utilities come to town with big plans for big gas plants. But how do you turn opposition into victory?

In this episode, Amy talks with the mayor of Superior about the city's long journey to defeat the Nemadji Trail Energy Centerβ€”the ugly gas plant with the pretty name.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Mayor Jim Paine, Superior, Wis.

Resources for You:

Under the Lens: The Truth About Natural Gas

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The Nuclear Option

There is a lot of new excitement around nuclear energy these days, and no coincidence, it comes as we face staggering energy demands from AI data centers. Now, the Trump Administration is relaxing environmental and safety regulations for new nuclear reactors. In this episode, a look at what would happen to our environment - and our energy bills - if utilities race to meet AI demand by building more nuclear reactors.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Katie Nekola, General Counsel, Clean Wisconsin

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Why Wisconsin should be more like Texas!

In the race to transition to clean, safe energy, there are lessons to be learned just about everywhere, including in Texas.

In this episode, what January's major winter storm is teaching us about our power gridβ€”and the painful lesson we are all going to learn this month about natural gas.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Ciaran Gallagher, PhD, Energy and Air Manager, Clean Wisconsin

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How Caledonia WI Defeated a Data Center

In this episode, how a small Wisconsin community stood up to one of the most powerful companies in the world… and won. And what we can all learn from their fight.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Prescott Balch, Village of Caledonia resident

Resources for You:

Stop Unchecked Data Center Development (petition)

AI Data Center Energy Demand Analysis

AI Data Center Offsite Water Withdrawals

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What to know about PFAS pesticides

On this episode a look what could be sprayed on food and farm fields all around us - plus a bit of Wisconsin history that offers some hope as we confront a new batch of toxic chemicals.

Host: Amy Barrilleaux

Guest: Sara Walling, Clean Wisconsin Water & Agency Program Director

Resources for You:

Under the Lens: What we know about PFAS in Wisconsin's Water

Nitrate pollution's impact on Wisconsn's health and economy

Neonicotinoid pesticides and their impact

Episode 43: The pesticides that could be lurking in your pollinator garden

Episode 33: Wisconsin's bees are acting weird. Here's why.

Episode 29: Trump's Threat to Safe Water (and how WI can fight back!)

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